Radeon 4850 and 4870

azcn2503 · Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:47 am

Well that was one hell of a typo, I meant August.

April.. August.. same thing.

Skillers · Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:12 pm

Yeah, only 8 months difference. xP

azcn2503 · Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:36 pm

4850 and 4870 News of the Day

ATI lifts NDA on 4850 - 4850 RELEASED TODAY 19-JUN-2008
The 4850 has been officially released today! The reviews started filtering out at 3pm GMT. The 4870 is under wraps until the 25th - it's going to be an explosive launch...

4850 Eats 9800GTX for Breakfast - Outperforms 9800GX2 and GTX280 when in Crossfire
This is simply amazing. We all knew the 4850 was going to be powerful but this is truly incredible and a huge jump in performance over the 3850 and 3870... The 4850 is priced at under 150 Euro's, so you're looking at around £100 for this amazing card - so for £200 you can outperform a £400+ card.

ATI Nail CrossfireX in OpenGL 2.1
The new Catalyst 8.6 driver released today enabled CrossfireX for OpenGL cards - with support for 4 GPU's.

4870 will not outperform a GTX280 or 9800GX2. 4870X2 however...
... and 4870X2 in Crossfire... well, that's something else.

Skillers · Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:41 pm

How close to GTX280 performance it comes is the question. If a 4850 is outperforming all the 8800 series cards, then a 4870 is goignt o be outstanding bang/buck.

azcn2503 · Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:08 pm

I'll find out for you in a moment

OCW wrote:

The AMD Radeon HD 4850 is probably selling way before it's launch date on the 25th of this month. While we were first skeptical about it's performance overtaking the 8800 or 9800 series, it turned out to be otherwise. In fact, the more shocking truth is that it is almost on par or perform far better than the single card dual core NVIDIA 9800GX2.

Update:

3DMark Vantage Performance:
GTX280: 10640
2x 4850: 10643

3DMark Vantage Extreme:
GTX280: 5329
2x 4850: 5103

World in Conflict 2560x1600 Average FPS:
GTX280: 46
2x 4850: 39

Crysis Very High 2560x1600 Average FPS:
GTX280: 12.23
2x 4850: 5.11

Unreal Tournament 3 2560x1600:
GTX280: 92.93
2x 4850: 100.21

3DMark06 4xAA/16xAF:
GTX280: 13354
2x 4850: 15089

TT wrote:

I absolutely love this card and the performance it offers. Considering stock is already available and the price is nothing short of fantastic, there isn’t a whole lot not to get excited about. Sure, it’s not a GTX 280 killer at all points, or even a 9800 GTX killer all the time for that matter, but the ultimate fact is that at launch these cards are going to be around the $250 AUD mark.

...

If the HD 4850 is anything to go by, the HD 4870 should also be a real winner for people with deeper pockets. The other thing is the fact that Intel support Crossfire, and this is AMDs biggest strength. You have to think if the X48 chipset was an SLI motherboard, what would our thoughts be on the card? - Fortunately, it’s not so we don’t have to worry about that and I can continue to have my borderline scary love for the new ATI model.

Skillers · Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:21 pm

Looking really good, I want to see 4870 single card performance!

azcn2503 · Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:53 am

I wonder how so many 4850's got leaked, yet the 4870 has been kept under wraps so well.

Anyway, according to the benchmarks, 4850 is the new 8800GT. It represents the best value for money. The 4850 obviously outperforms the 3870 from last-gen, and 4850 performs better than Nvidia cards when doing FSAA... cool!

Update @ 09:00:
ATI Radeon 4850 on sale in the UK from AWD-IT.
These guys seem to be the first to sell them in the UK.
http://www.awd-it.co.uk/scripts/prodVie ... xpress+2.0

Skillers · Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:11 pm

Not a bad price, currently a bit more expensive than 8800s, but other models might be cheaper.

After I see the benchmarks for all the new gen cards, I'll probs get a 4850 or 4870, depending on price.

azcn2503 · Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:12 pm

4870X2 could be coming out August instead of July.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?optio ... 5&Itemid=1

Skillers · Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:14 pm

What's the expected price on one of those?

azcn2503 · Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:16 pm

I'd expect it to be double of a 4850, or just less than double of a 4870.

About 4850 pricing in the UK:

Fudzilla wrote:

Both companies are also listing the card for the same price £147.99 or about €188/$292 which is a crazy price in comparison of what we've seen these cards going for in Europe and the US. Rip-off Britan at its best, as this is a lot more than just adding some VAT on top of the US list price of $199.

Just reinforcing what we said earlier I guess.

Skillers · Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:34 pm

Yeah, it's ridiculous, I'd say £130 at most, but £120 would be much better.

azcn2503 · Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:52 pm

4850's are on OCUK:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productli ... &subid=939

From PowerColor, HIS, Sapphire, Gigabyte, and Asus.

Skillers · Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:32 pm

I think they need to drop in price just a bit. I expect that will happen in price within the next month.

EDIT: they are also available at Scan with the cheapest being £130, though that is only pre-order.

azcn2503 · Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:02 am

That's a lower price than some 3870's. That's good because the 4850 is better than the 3870 by quite a lot!

Skillers · Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:35 am

Heh, yeah. Looking at other results, it either seems to be between the 8800GT and GTS, or above the GTS, depending on the game, which is bang on for the money.

azcn2503 · Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:53 am

Both ATI and Nvidia will lower their prices pretty soon though. Guru3D man asked us to mark his words - the prices will drop.

Skillers · Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:39 pm

Is that including the new cards?

azcn2503 · Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:40 pm

It was regarding the 4850.

Skillers · Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:43 pm

Ah, cool, hopefully it willc ome to about £100-110, with the 4870 at £140-150, like the US prices.

azcn2503 · Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:45 pm

Looks like the 4870 will cost about £210 for the 512MiB version and about £230 for the 1GiB version. These were spotted for literally a few minutes on Overclockers UK by some of the forum members.

I want to wait for the 4870X2 but that could be quite a while (may not be buying the PC the day I get back after all) ...

Skillers · Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:51 pm

That's waaaay too expensive... it's nearly twice the price of a 4850!

azcn2503 · Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:04 pm

I'm pretty certain that the price will drop. The idea is to make it a little more expensive than existing 3870's then when the 3870's go EOL, the 4870's fit in to the gap where the 3870 dropped out. I won't be able to wait for the 4870X2 to drop, however...

Skillers · Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:25 pm

Heh, I see what you're saying, hopefully they'll drop to £160, or those cards were just expensive ones.

azcn2503 · Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:41 pm

It's a special introductory price!

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