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When is this damn Scout update going to come out?


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Well they said they only had to complete the achievement artwork after releasing a fix for Natasha about two weeks ago! :S

I came to the conclusion with some friends that Gabe Newell has infact fell asleep at his PC whilst trying to make some achievement art on MS Paint.

Oh and I do hope you guys have been paying close attention to the updates!
"TF_Damage_Disablespread" is one of the new cvars. It must change the game quit a lot, no more random damage. Just fall off damage. Fancy testing it out sometime? :)


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Well you don't even like TF2 apparantly, so NO :'(


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THE UPDATE IS COMING

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Scout Site Unveiling Release Details

February 17, 2008 — Valve, creators of award-winning games and leading technologies, today announced a set of new releases for Team Fortress 2, the title named Editor's Favorite Game of All Time by PC Gamer (UK). The releases are headline by the Scout Update and will be made available Tuesday, February 24. Between now and then, folks can learn more about what's coming by checking www.tf2.com/scoutupdate each day.


WE ARE WAITING FOR THE LEETNESS! WE WILL UPDATE ASAP WHEN IT COMES OUT! F YEAH!

P.S. thanks goz for bringing this to our attention ;)

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The news you've all been waiting for: The Scout Update!

Also, we released an update yesterday with a change that needs some clarification. The update notes said this:

* Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher & Syringe Gun)

From the response we got, there's some confusion around this, so we thought it'd be good to do a post that explained what's going on here.

In TF2, almost all damage done to players is modified based on the distance from the player to the enemy who did the damage. There are several reasons why this is done, but the general purpose of it is that it makes close combat resolve faster than long range combat, giving approaching players more time to make tactical decisions (like whether to engage or retreat). The ramp centers around the 512 units (roughly 40 feet) range, and linearly remaps damage done from 150% at 0 units down to 50% at >1024 units. So if you're fighting someone closer than 512 units, you're doing extra damage.

Sticky bombs have an additional complexity on top of this: they use the distance modification for the first 5 seconds of their life, and then turn it off. This is because it's generally a dual purpose weapon: used offensively like a rocket launcher, and defensively to create traps. The 5 second rule essentially means distance matters in the offensive mode, but not at all in the defensive. So if you're a trap laying Demoman, you don't need to get near the stickies when you set them off.

So, yesterdays update reduced the amount of bonus damage that the stickies earned at close range during that first 5 seconds of their life. Their old distance-based damage ramp range was 150% -> 50% variance around the base 120 damage, and the update reduced that to 115% -> 50%. Here's a handy graph with the details, and it shows how the remap only affects damage closer than 512 units.

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Why did we do this? We didn't think that the Demoman was overpowered at medium & long ranges, where the charge up time provides an existing penalty. If we did a straight damage reduction across the board, we would affect that. In addition, by weakening the Demoman specifically at short range, we've created a weakness that enemies can take advantage of in combat, and makes the Demoman wary of specific enemy classes (like the Scout and Pyro).


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looks like a nice update, though only playing it will confirm anything :)

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Yup! Lets test stickys for a week whilst in anticipation for more scout stuff!


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That's quite a good tweak, should hopefully make the standard pipes more used.

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This makes me very happy :D

But why is todays piece of news not opened!?!?!?

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It will be released sometime up to midnight, remember, they are American.

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Neither have I. They look quite interesting.

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Yeah, they look cool, they're clearly trying to get arena more well liked as before they were whoring pl_ maps

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A sniper based Arena Map eh.... Im gussing there are narrow platforms and the like to exaggerate the advatage/be more conductive to close play at the same time.

I like the look of the Gravelpit style one too, is it going to be in a similar vein? Like 2 then one? Itll be okay being insdie, however it does improve the play advantage of the Demo,. even with his slight nerf :/

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