Templates didnt kill that. It was build websites posting the best builds for certain areas which basically made it really easy for people. Observer mode had killed PvP builds since everyone knew the top players builds.

I guess you've all seem the new trailer?

It looks nice.

However, it is basically confirmed that Guild Wars 2 will remain a heavily instanced game, with cities probably being the only true open zone.

I will not be buying this game.

I would like to see this new trailer seeing as the only one shown so far has been that one with all the concept art and no actual evidence of instancing.

There's a new one out that shows some in-game footage

http://www.massively.com/2009/08/20/are ... 2-trailer/



Highlighted in poo colour to emphasise how I feel about this.

The trailer doesnt show any form of instanced gameplay at all. It just shows different environments. I dont see whats so bad about instanced gameplay. Games like WoW and that feel barren anyway in most areas since you never see anyone anyway half the time and the few people you do see wont interact with you anyway.

For all you know the in game footage shown could always be apart of the "persistant world experience" shown. To be honest all I have seen from you is "bawww I hate instances please take them away". Instead of constantly saying its crap you could actually say why you think its crap?

Apologies for confusion, but I didn't say that the video showed instanced gameplay...

The only thing that points towards the game being heavily instanced is on the official websites FAQ, not the video.

Just play on the highest populated server... nagafen

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/101/1015971p1.html

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/guild-wars-2-preview_4?page=1

http://www.pause.com/index.php/guild-wars-2-exclusive-a-few-questions-with-mike-obrien/

Each one of these says Guild wars 2 has a persistant world.

Interesting. We'll just have to wait and see.

http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/d ... -overview/

Still will be heavily instanced also:

Hello.

Who else is interested in this game?

A lot more information has been released especially in the last couple of weeks.

Personally it's not my kinda game - I don't like the look of the combat, interface or classes after watching the recent videos so it's really a no-go for me. It does look like it's extremely popular though and there are lots of people really looking forward to it. More so than RIFT and Tera it seems.

Update: FAQ still hints at extensive instanced gameplay. IMO this sucks.

I'd think we'd noticed that already

Lies, should be pretty good, i'm lookign forwrd to it

Hello

I would just like to say that apart from the cool comics and nice artwork, I dislike everything on this page:
http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/c ... ing-death/

How much would Guild Wars 2 be costing is it Month sub?

GW1 was buy the game+expansions only, no subs, so I would expect GW2 will be the same.

Ahh cool cool, sounds good then may have to get it if enough people form here will get it as well. Not like DDO...

im a definite rennac

What are you looking forward to the most in Guild Wars 2?

The death and combat system has got me really interested. especially the difference of combat to typical stand there and attack them with numbers kind of fighting. As for the death system i completely agree and likw what they have done. Although some people like the feeling of healing others, losing healer classes isn't major i believe. Personally im still looking for more classes. Paragon, assassin, ritualist or dervish to the line up.

Finally the story. I enjoyedguild wars for its story and i hope to enjoy GW's2 for the same reason.

You may only be limited to 10 skills but i like it.

Personally I think this is the next stage in dumbing down online RPG's but again if people are going to be playing it then I might as well make the one-off purchase so that you guys can group up with a real person.

I don't believe PC gamer when they, on the cover, claim Guild wars 2 to be the savior of the MMO.

BUT

I do believe it is different enought to change the MMO as we know. ITs all very info overload in abundant skills of varying purpose. Guild wars does it different and i think its a good thing.

All I can see this being at the moment is the next Guild Wars game. I don't think it is worthy of being called an MMO because it's missing the key element of being massive what with all the instanced gameplay. It is an online RPG.

As for them calling it the saviour of MMO's... I think quite the opposite. This mentality that everything can be achieved solo or with bots, that you can pick up and play and achieve something in 5 minutes is a load of bull. Playing games like that offers little sense of achievement because there are no epic experiences that took you a long time, that rewarded a rare item, that you can genuinely feel like you worked hard toward...

I personally can't wait for another game like EQ2 (how it was in it's released state or at least to GU11) where things were really difficult, required you to group and spend hours online. It was good then. It's going more the way of WOW now, making things too easy.. everybody has the same gear (inspect anybody and you can bet a lot of money that they are wearing the "Challengers xx gear").. all to appeal to noobs and people that have not played MMO's before or want an easy 10 minute experience...

http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/h ... monuments/

monument calculator

Cool feature